-Kolerin Character Directory-

Chirpingsong wrote:

I just feel really lost and confused, is all, since I have no idea how any of this came to be...

What came to be? I'm open to questions. If you have any, shoot. I don't want you to be confused. XD

It's not necessarily that I want to organize the main plot, I want the concept to be solid. If you know details that you aren't sharing, share them. If you simply hadn't thought stuff out this far, then be clear about it and let us help fill in the holes.

I just don't understand what's special about the forest or why people are researching it, or answers to any of those other questions. I'd prefer it if I could have characters involved in this research and such, have some pseudo-antagonists or something. I don't just wanna play detective and see what happens, I want to be a part of it. (Could be needed inspiration for new characters... I've been needing some ideas, and this could help.)

Okay! I think I understand what you're saying now.

You're right, though, I should be keeping so much about it untold. I think I was just scared that if I did, no one would become interested.

Basically I was thinking, the reason for everyone being supernatural is linked to the forest. Everyone who is supernatural, somewhere down the line, has ancestors who lived in kolerin. And something caused supernatural abilities to be passed down generations. I don't know what, but that might not matter so much because it was so long ago. Maybe prolonged exposure to the magical energies over generations caused it. Idk

Today, a group of young people were screwing around with some sort of weapon probably, I was gonna say firearms but I know everyone has been against that idea soooo something else that could blow a chunk out of something. They hit it and blue glowing sap oozed out, and being dumbass young people who were probably also under the influence of something, consumed it. Turns out the stuff is like the best drug ever, and makes you feel great. Bummer is that it's pretty rare that a tree has the abnormal sap.

So you've got druggies beating up on the forest trying to get that great feeling, and then theres the people that leak the 'secret' to important people who send out people to test it and figure out what it is. It's probably unidentifiable. So researchers work on it and maybe one comes up with an idea to dilute it and add other properties to it and bam it's like, a magical miracle drug. Maybe while they were having doubts that it did anything, one scientist whose family member had cancer last resort gave it to them and they were cured. Then they are probably scrambling to figure out the extent of it's abilities-- perhaps if they meddle with it enough, they'll find it is an anti-aging serum, too.

But the more the trees are tapped, the more damaged the forest becomes, and supernaturals feel weaker by the day the more damage is done. Maybe powers begin faltering. And lighties will feel it the most-- some even dropping dead. Lighties are probably the most closely related to the ancestors, having grown up in Blueglow which is the oldest part of the forest. There's a lot more, I think-- i'll work on typing that out next. It's gonna take forever if I include it in one post

Oh yeah and I thought maybe it'd get really popular in the news unless it's purposefully kept hush-hush. So there are also those who have no interest in the science and the bettering of humanity or whatever and just want to make a living. Maybe lots of people start selling merch from the forest because tourists will be like oooo I WANT AN ANCIENT MAGIC-Y COOL LOOKING PIECE OF FUCKING WOOD

The city and general area around kolerin could become quite popular, the city would gradually grow and it would become wealthier. This is all in the long run though. But either way it leaves room for options because we could add things in because there would be a lot of building and renovations going on.

Dammit I took so long on that first post everyone logged out lol

We need details so we can decide if we actually like the idea... And there are some details about it now that I most certainly don't like, no offense. We need to work it out together so we can all enjoy the idea.

First, that this tree sap is so powerful that it cures cancer. That just seems a liiiiittle crazy. Maybe it's an alternate treatment, but cancer is a very complex disease with all sorts of different types. Perhaps it boosts the immune system to keep these patients healthier, or helps to kill off cancer cells when put into a concentrated form or messed with in a lab.

But the big thing is that supernaturals lose their abilities and die with the forest. It directly conflicts with some canons I was making, and it bothers me... I know you probably didn't know that, but with the Sect, I introduced some canons regarding supernaturals. They are unsure of where/when/how abilities first entered the genome, but they are all indeed genetic, can be passed on to offspring, and you need certain DNA to have and use them, as well as to accept Modding. Abilities manifest themselves as an extension of brainwaves, kind of. Like how intelligent beings can manipulate their own bodies and have emotions and complex thoughts, supernaturals' power of will extends to the world around them. It is still not fully explained, which is a huge point in the book and why the Sect never found a cure, but... this idea that the forest gives them magical powers and that if it dies, they die, totally conflicts with that.

We can find a middle point where the two canons can mesh, but I'm really not okay with the idea right now... it's a little too hokey-pokey, and conflicts with existing canon too much.

So we need to brainstorm together as a group.

Cay wrote:

Dammit I took so long on that first post everyone logged out lol

No, it only looks like people log off when they're on the "post a reply" screen. XD It does that for some reason.

For awhile no one was interested in helping... So that's kinda why.

Also I didn't mean they were guaranteed to die, some would though. I'm sorry you don't like it. You can change it if you want...

I just think we should all work together to work on this idea. The basic concept of the forest being targeted is fine, but isn't having their home and tribal lands destroyed a big enough cause to worry? Especially since other supernatural properties exist within the forest that would be destroyed as well if the forest died. (I know Flare would not like having her tribal home destroyed...)

It's not that nobody is interested in helping, we've just all been at a loss of ideas. You gave us a base, so now we can edit and built upon it together, without conflicting with current canon. We're a group; no one person is expected to do it all themselves. Sometimes we just need time to have ideas, and we need to work together and keep everyone in the loop.

My main issue is the conflict with current canon. If we fix that, I'll be happy.

Honestly, I don't know what to think of the plot anymore... Kinda pissed off... I feel like you guys were almost fighting...?

Okay, do you know how you'd like to change the current canon then? I'm not sure what you mean by that. XD if you straight up don't like the idea, we don't have to use it. You sounded like you had other ideas?

Blueleaf wrote:

Honestly, I don't know what to think of the plot anymore... Kinda pissed off... I feel like you guys were almost fighting...?

What? O.o I didn't get that vibe at all. I thought we were just civilly discussing the plot and how to make it agreeable? At first I think we were both frustrated because we couldn't figure out how to get our points across, but I didn't get the impression of fighting. XD Also Blue you're welcome to contribute any ideas you have of course. Why are you pissed off?

Now i'm really confused. I can't find anything wrong with the conversation. .________________. sorry if I seemed forward??

No, no, no, this idea is fine, I just had a totally different impression of it before you gave details.

I was thinking about plants having healing properties, yes, and strange phenomena happening that people were investigating. (Like the Time Vortex pool from those stories forever ago. XD I imagine there are more places like that.)

Just nix the part about people dying with the forest, and I'm cool with this idea, since it won't conflict with canon anymore. Having people being pissed about their tribal lands being invaded and destroyed by the less-careful researchers can be a thing, and since some surviving tribes and villages still live off of the woods, their lifestyles and well-being would be put at risk as well. They'd lose their homes for the sake of this research, even if the research is all good intentions, like you mentioned with the healing sap.

I like the concept and wanna work with it, I just want a few things altered, is all.

... And I dunno what to say to you, Blueh, except that you need to relax a little. We had conflicting ideas but we're working it out, that's no reason to get mad. I'm just being honest. I'm not going to pretend to like an idea that I don't, but I'm also not going to be a jerk about it and trash the whole thing. The idea is good, just a few things need changed for it to be something I want to do.

(Her being mad is probably angled at me, Cay, don't worry... You've said nothing wrong, really. I'm glad you're willing to work it out with me.)

I don't have anything right now... Pretty much sucked dry mentally.

I don't know... I guess before Cay explained her plot to you that you were just going to use other ideas and not asked anyone else for their opinion? It seemed a little... Much. It kinda put a bad taste in my mouth, but you got over that with Cay.

Ohh, okay!

I will also be completely honest and say i've needed help making the plot okay, too, because I have been feeling like I couldn't get it right. DX lol

Now that I think about it more, it would definitely be better to scrap the dying piece... When it comes to major ideas I always go a little too far in drama factor... I need to work on that. *facedesk*

.... :oooo shit I also forgot that there were still people living off the forest.

Is there more you wanted to change or was that about it? Also I know you wanted to tie other things in, is there anything you wanted to do that would affect things a lot?

I don't have "other ideas." I don't know why people think I do. I just want to have more of a say in this idea, since I didn't like certain parts of it. You guys can be involved, too, just say something. Like Cay mentioned, she hasn't gotten a lot of feedback, so I don't get why all of the sudden my suggesting things is bad. I'm just being the person to give her some feedback because I have an opinion on her concept.

If you have an opinion, just say it, don't get mad at me for sharing my own opinion. We all have the right to contribute...

Now I am actually upset because I'm constantly being treated like a villain... *shakes head*

I haven't thought the other things out too much yet, Cay, but if I do think any of them would fit well I'll definitely post something about them. I'm still working on characters and stuff, so I've got a good bit of thinking to do yet. But I'm definitely interested in having a researcher character... I like the idea of being able to explore the forest more and have fun phenomena happen. Could be really cool to play around with.

Blueleaf wrote:

I don't have anything right now... Pretty much sucked dry mentally.

I don't know... I guess before Cay explained her plot to you that you were just going to use other ideas and not asked anyone else for their opinion? It seemed a little... Much. It kinda put a bad taste in my mouth, but you got over that with Cay.

Ohhh, yeah. I noticed that too and was a little confused but, it was just worded wrong, I think.*pets head* everythings fine! X3

Cay wrote:

Blueleaf wrote:

I don't have anything right now... Pretty much sucked dry mentally.

I don't know... I guess before Cay explained her plot to you that you were just going to use other ideas and not asked anyone else for their opinion? It seemed a little... Much. It kinda put a bad taste in my mouth, but you got over that with Cay.

Ohhh, yeah. I noticed that too and was a little confused but, it was just worded wrong, I think.*pets head* everythings fine! X3

gI don't really think so...

Chirpingsong wrote:

I don't have "other ideas." I don't know why people think I do. I just want to have more of a say in this idea, since I didn't like certain parts of it. You guys can be involved, too, just say something. Like Cay mentioned, she hasn't gotten a lot of feedback, so I don't get why all of the sudden my suggesting things is bad. I'm just being the person to give her some feedback because I have an opinion on her concept.

If you have an opinion, just say it, don't get mad at me for sharing my own opinion. We all have the right to contribute...

Now I am actually upset because I'm constantly being treated like a villain... *shakes head*

I haven't thought the other things out too much yet, Cay, but if I do think any of them would fit well I'll definitely post something about them. I'm still working on characters and stuff, so I've got a good bit of thinking to do yet. But I'm definitely interested in having a researcher character... I like the idea of being able to explore the forest more and have fun phenomena happen. Could be really cool to play around with.

D: lets not get too upset, I think there was a lot of misunderstandings we had to work out, too! Not just the plot itself.

Also I think we should remember Chirp probably doesn't feel her best anyway so even if she does say something questionable, that could be why so lets not get ticked off so quickly, you know?

A researcher character would be interesting! Yeah definitely share whatever you come up with, i'll try to keep posting stuff as well. If I think of anything. lol im glad the plot is at least mostly agreeable now? Still need to hear from everyone else, and i'm still not even sure if Pluto wants to even kolerin anymore. XD

that feel when you cant even kolerin lol

Blueleaf wrote:

Cay wrote:

Blueleaf wrote:

I don't have anything right now... Pretty much sucked dry mentally.

I don't know... I guess before Cay explained her plot to you that you were just going to use other ideas and not asked anyone else for their opinion? It seemed a little... Much. It kinda put a bad taste in my mouth, but you got over that with Cay.

Ohhh, yeah. I noticed that too and was a little confused but, it was just worded wrong, I think.*pets head* everythings fine! X3

gI don't really think so...

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Yeah, the plot's looking pretty good. I can fill Sil in on Skype if she doesn't read all this, and I haven't heard from Pluto in a while, but he can be poked.

... *sighs* Well, I feel like death and don't want to sit around and take this, so I'm going to go work on my Pipase story or something. Blueh has issues with me, Cay, and as much as it hurts, this is a thing. It has been for a long time. I'll be available on Skype or DA, but I'm not comfortable talking publicly on the forum anymore tonight. So I'll be taking my leave for the evening.

Okay, sure!

Aw, alright. I didn't know this was a thing... that sucks.
I understand though. Also same goes for me if you want to talk about whatever. I'm a little slow with checking skype though. Anyway, goodnight Chirp!

And goodnight to you, too, Blue. I assume you won't be posting anymore for today. :3

I should probably do my homework now. LOL XD